In this interview, I sat down with 4our3va (Forever) to talk about how he started making beats, how he makes them so fast, his work with Ken Carson, and how he’s moving up as a producer while finishing his senior year of high school. With recent placements on albums like Baby Whoa 2 from Glokk40Spaz and More Chaos from Ken Carson, 2025 has been an exceptional year for him and his work as a producer.

Where’d you get the name 4our3va from?

My other name used to be sparklewaterpapi when I was in seventh grade. That was obviously inspired by @champagnepapi, Drake's Instagram. But 4our3va, I just started thinking hard. I was on live with Shawn Ferrari when I was in like seventh grade. He said if I want to blow up in the producer industry, I need to change my name. So boom, I started thinking, this is something I want to do for the rest of my life, you feel me? I never wanted to work no job or nothing, so this has been my dream. I wanted to be rich I wanted to be stable, make sure everybody straight. So I just thought of the name Forever, 4our3va.

Before all the placements, what did you start making beats on at first, and why did you start?

I didn’t already know I wanted to be a producer. It was one time when we lived in these apartments, my big brother and I went to his homeboy's house, and they just hopped on FL 12. So that was my first little introduction to beats. I liked making music myself like an artist, but I thought this was how every producer starts. I didn’t really like the beats I was hearing on YouTube. Nobody could really make the type of beat that I wanted, so I just started making beats on my phone on GarageBand. I wanted to be an artist for sure at the time, so I was just making beats for me.

One year ago today exactly, Raq baby’s Spill Season dropped. What would you say you’ve changed most since that album dropped?

I produced four songs on that album, but I guess five if you count Pull Up With The Stick. But I’ve never been the type of person to only do one sound. I work with a lot of artists, and a lot of artists that I work with got different taste of beats. So even when I was making Spill Season, them beats was for Raq baby, but I was still cooking up other beats for a lot of other artists. So a year later, I’d say I still am the same person. I can still make any type of beat for real, So nothing really changed. But I'm glad I've gone up since then, all glory to God for that.

You posted that you did 100 beats in a day. How long are you spending on each one? And how long does a melody take you?

I don’t usually do 100 beats a day, but I did 100 beats in a day once, I finished them in 13 hours. Thanks to the loop makers who sent me the loops. Usually, when I hear a loop, I already know what drums I wanna do on it. So the drums will probably take me about two to three minutes. The arrangement will probably take me about two minutes. After that, I’m done, but that's how I made 100 beats in only 13 hours. If I'm doing the melody, it might take me 10 to 15 minutes, because sometimes I like adding a lot of arts and a lot of sounds in mine. It takes me longer to make a melody than it take me to use the drums and all that. I really think more when I’m making a melody than when I’m making the beat with the drums.

Do you want to move into being an artist too? And how do you have to change your sound depending on who you’re working with?

I really don’t know right now, it would be fun to see people look at me more as an artist, and I been really getting the inspiration from a lot of producers that I know and seen did it. You got Prettifun, you got Slayr, and Maajins. So that definitely been the inspiration of me trying the artist side of things, but really I’m just rapping for fun right now. I’m not really trying to make it too serious, because I still like making beats more than I like making music. I always change my sound for an artist I’m working with. But one thing that don’t change is my 808s. Every beat you might hear from me that I got placed, you gon' always hear that bass, because that's one thing I really liked since I was a kid.

Are you in the studio a lot, or are you making these beats at home?

Only time, it was at an Airbnb for Glokk40, shout out to Glokk and Ben (his manager). They let me and my big brother pull up, but it was like a little Airbnb, I wouldn't have called it a studio, but it was still fun. I met a lot of producers as well for that.

How did that session with Glokk40 come together?

I been cool with Glokk since I was in the eighth grade, and I been listening to him since I was in the sixth grade. So we already been cool with each other. That’s my brother for real, him and Ben Baker, H3LLBOY, Velly, all them, those are the guys for real, so always got love for them no matter what. I don’t even gotta send Glokk beats, him and his manager Ben are just people I really rock with. They been trying to get me to go down there. So they finally asked me again, I just said okay, let me see if my brother cool with it. He was all right with it, so we just went down there and cooked up some beats with a bunch of producers.

Does your big brother help you a lot with the music stuff?

He actually just texted me yesterday ‘cause he want to get back to learning how to make beats again, but he’s just doing it for fun. But I’ll say for right now, I got to an age where I didn’t really need no help of putting on artists and all that. So he started really having to help me, not like with my beats and all that, but with showing me artists when I was probably 12 or 13. That’s when I started finding artists myself. So after that, he had his type of music he likes I got my type of music I like. But we always still show each other the new artists. He used to make beats for fun. He never took it seriously. That was around 2012, 2013. So for somebody like him just getting out of high school around that time, he was just doing it for fun. It was never nothing like, oh I’m trying to make it out. It was just something to do for fun with his homeboys.

You mentioned Slayr, what’s the story there?

We already worked before like a year or two ago, and we made beats together too, probably about 2023, 2024. So we always been cool with each other.

Who are some producers you enjoy collaborating with right now?

One, my RLC group, all them in there. Zaid, Darion, Ruketown, Scar, Traiq, Dezion, Wizard, Soulja. Those are definitely the people I like working with a lot in my producer group. Besides them, you got Quay off 901, I been working with him for a long time. You got gfelds, Mental, Ivvys, Yung Zayy. The producer named Young Zayy especially, he’s so hard. I like working with a lot of producers, bro. It’s a lot that I can’t even name ‘cause I work with so many people, my philosophy is if you hard, you hard, so I always show love to everyone.

What is RLC, when did you start it, and why did you start a group?

Rich Off Computers, it's my group of producers. I started it last year before we came to school for my junior year. I was already in a group from eighth to before my 11th grade year called ATM (All That Matters). Always love to them, bro. They showed love to me when I was really young and annoying, I used to spam their DMs, I was so annoying! I would spam them all the time and they still showed me love. They showed me right from wrong, don’t spam this, don’t do this. So I always showed love and respect to them. After that, I was always the youngest one in that group. They all in their 20s. So I wanted to start something for people that was my age, and I already had a name as well. So I started thinking and I said "rich off computers", you feel me, just to manifest. And thank God that I’m stable right now where I don’t have to do nothing but make beats. So I did that, and then I already had picked the producers, and it just went like that.

Who are some lowkey artists you’re working with or listening to that you think are next up?

I got this artist that I’m working with, his name is Spinback. He from Florida, he’s very hard. I gotta send him back some more beats. This artist named Joe Dirt from Atlanta. He hard. He hungry for it. I can’t lie, I’m ready to see him more. Even if I don’t make beats for him like that, bro, that’s somebody I’ma always repost and all that, ‘cause he hungry for it and he hard in general. There's a lot more artists, a lot of Memphis artists too, I like the underground scene over there right now!

How did you start working with Ken Carson?

Actually, Ken hit me up.

I been texting him since probably about 2023. I said I got beats for you. And then January of 2024, it was overdue by then so we just worked.

What’s the story behind “Naked” and “200 Kash”? And what was going through your head when “200 Kash” leaked?

For real, “Naked” and “200 Kash” was just me making beats a lot. Around that time, I was really trying to get on More Chaos for sure. So I was probably cranking about 15 to 20 beats a day.

But “Naked” probably has more of a story. I was in a Discord call with 16YRSOLD and Mental. And we were just all chilling, working on More Chaos. So then I was doing this loop that Mental sent me from him and Ivvys. I said, "Man, I really don't know what to do with this", so I almost deleted it. But I remember Mental was finishing zips, so I said "yo, Mental, you want this zip?" And then he finished it, and I sent it to Ken. Couple months later, we found out Ken got on it. For “200 Kash,” my homeboy conz, I had bought his drum kits, so we tapped in after that. He sent me some loops and I used his whole drum kit for that beat. Probably about a week or two later, Ken FaceTimed me and showed me the song for “200 Kash.” My initial reaction was just, whoa. That was in December. Then in April, that’s when it dropped.

As far as the leak, that was my first time dealing with something like that. I never really had to deal with people leaking music and all that. So when that happened, I was a little nervous, I didn't really know if it was still gonna drop. But I was happy to hear the song, I liked it a lot. I just hoped it would come out, and it did. All glory to God again that it dropped and all that, and props to Ken too, ‘cause before that, I already had a name, but after I worked with Ken, I got a lot bigger.

I remember seeing that you had a board in your room with goals. What were some of them?

In my room, I got this little board up and on it for my 2025 goals. Two of them was get a mainstream placement, which I got when Ken dropped one of our songs. The other one was make it on Ken Carson album. So I got them scratched off.

The big one was to hit 20K IG followers. I had hit that after More Chaos. I just now hit 40,000 on YouTube. One of the goals was a plaque too, and I’m about go ahead and get that since More Chaos hit number one on Billboard.

Since you’re still in school, how does it feel having placements and snippets for songs that you produced going around? And when you see snippets that use your beats, do you brush it off or get excited?

It’s mostly the little kids now. I’d say seventh, eighth, ninth graders. Our middle school and our high school is combined, so it's mostly the little kids that come up to me. But the other dudes, the ones that’s in my grade or a year or two behind, they been knew I been making moves. Everybody knew I been making beats since I was in middle school. So it’s normal for them to see me doing good. They just all show me love. They’ll tell me a snippet going viral is hard and all that. So my school always show me love.

I don’t brush snippets off. I get happy. It’s just knowing that an artist got on the beat gets me excited that he previewed it. I feel like they'll drop it, most definitely if the fans like it. So that’s what I just wait on.

You've definitely inspired a lot of the younger generation, so have you had a full-circle moment yet where people have told you that you inspired them to make beats?

I got two or three people DM me and say that they started producing, but a lot of people did say I was one of their inspirations to keep going. That definitely is a blessing. Somebody like me, I wouldn’t expect nothing like that. I’m not no person of ego or none of that. When something like that comes to me, it brings a smile to my face. I thought it was going to take me till I was in like my twenties, my thirties to be at where I’m at now.

A lot of it is definitely online. In real life, the people I did inspire to make beats, they already been wanting to make beats, so they came to me. My two homeboys Darion and Zaiden, and also Dylan. Darion and Zaiden in my producer group RLC. Dylan, I already was cool with him from school. I taught them how to make beats, and really Dylan and Zaiden really taught themselves, honestly. So they did they thing.

Can we expect to see you on Ken’s next album, The Xperiment?

Man, I don’t know. I’m wondering just like y’all, I can’t lie. I just send beats, you feel me. And when you see it, you see it.

Do you ever deal with creative blocks?

I wouldn’t say I get music block, but there are days, right now, since I’m out of school, where I’m just getting sleep. I really just don’t want to make beats. Of course, I’m hungry for it still, no matter what. But I been producing, I been going up since I was in eighth grade, you feel me, like a name. Now I got over 300 plus released songs that were produced by me. This year, before October, I was cooking up 15-20 beats a day. So I had to stop that. I feel like it was ruining my creativity, my mindset for beats, ‘cause I’m making the same thing every day, so I had to start taking two to three day breaks, sometimes a week or two. Then when I came back, I like how the beats sounded. They different.

Are there any mainstream artists you really want to work with, and how do you usually get tapped in with artists at that level?

Definitely Playboi Carti and Lil Uzi Vert. Once I get to work with those two, I feel like I'm completed as a producer. It’s not always just through the artist that I get tapped in though. Sometimes it’s through artists. Sometimes it’s through other producers. You could work with a producer and be like, man, I feel like so-and-so would be hard on your beats, I’m gonna tap y’all in together. Sometimes it’s an A&R, sometimes it’s an engineer, hell, sometimes it could be they homeboy! It’s a lot of different connections you could get trying to get to the artist.